Common misconceptions about maps - Revision history

Pursiyme7seven at 08:09, 31 May 2025

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	=== "Pedophilia is a mental illness" ===		=== "Pedophilia is a mental illness" ===

	'''TL;DR: There is a difference between the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder and ~~pedophia~~, and this difference is acknowledged by professionals.'''		'''TL;DR: There is a difference between the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder and pedophilia, and this difference is acknowledged by professionals.'''

	Pedophilia is frequently equated to the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder. In reality, currently both the International Classification of Diseases (maintained by the World Health Organization) and Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (maintained by the American Psychiatric Association) recognize the difference between having an attraction to children and having a mental disorder.		Pedophilia is frequently equated to the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder. In reality, currently both the International Classification of Diseases (maintained by the World Health Organization) and Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (maintained by the American Psychiatric Association) recognize the difference between having an attraction to children and having a mental disorder.

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The nature of minor attraction

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	[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39118553/ Levitan, J. A., Martijn, F. M., Santaguida, M., & Seto, M. C. (2024). Minor-Attracted Men's Lived Experiences of Romantic Attraction. Journal of sex & marital therapy, 50(7), 811–824. https://doi.org/10.1080/0092623X.2024.2385909]		[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39118553/ Levitan, J. A., Martijn, F. M., Santaguida, M., & Seto, M. C. (2024). Minor-Attracted Men's Lived Experiences of Romantic Attraction. Journal of sex & marital therapy, 50(7), 811–824. https://doi.org/10.1080/0092623X.2024.2385909]

			=== "Maps are incapable of being attracted to adults or entering a relationship with an adult" ===
			'''TL;DR: mapness indicates presence of attraction towards youth, not absence of attraction towards adults. Many maps are attracted to both childhood and adulthood.'''

			"A small minority of participants (4.4%; 52/1,189) was more attracted to adults than to children, although our recruitment procedure and inclusion criteria ensured at least moderate attraction to the latter. A larger minority (13.1%; 156/1,189) of participants was equally attracted to their highest rated categories of children and of adults."

			[https://sci-hub.se/10.1037/abn0000212 Bailey, J. M., Hsu, K. J., & Bernhard, P. A. (2016). An Internet study of men sexually attracted to children: Sexual attraction patterns. Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 125(7), 976–988. doi:10.1037/abn0000212]

			"A notable proportion of individuals with pedohebephilic report having current or past relationships with adults (21-63% [15, 24, 25, 27, 32 ••, 60]) and having fallen in love with an adult [60]. The reasons non-preferential pedohebephilic individuals engage in sexual and romantic behavior with adults are comparable to reasons teleiophiles give [72,74]; whereas exclusive pedohebephiles' reasons reflect more closely the reasons asexual teleiophiles engage in sex with adults (i.e., to provide a partner with pleasure [72]). While these rates of relationships with adult partners tend to be lower than comparison samples of teleiophiles [4], pedohebephiles pursue, enjoy, and maintain long-terms intimate relationships with adults."

			[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377205876_The_Subjective_Experience_of_Individuals_with_Pedohebephilic_Interest McPhail, Ian. (2024). The Subjective Experience of Individuals with Pedohebephilic Interest. Current Sexual Health Reports. 16. 1-12. 10.1007/s11930-023-00381-y.]

			"The majority of our sample (71.6%; n=219/306) reported having fallen in love with a child who was 14 or younger when the participants themselves were 18 or older. Over half of the participants (55.6%; n=170/306) reported having fallen in love with an adult (someone who was 18 or older)."

			[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9 Martijn, F. M., Babchishin, K. M., Pullman, L. E., & Seto, M. C. (2020). Sexual Attraction and Falling in Love in Persons with Pedohebephilia. Archives of Sexual Behavior. doi:10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9]

	== Maps and sexual abuse ==		== Maps and sexual abuse ==

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	[https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8888496/ Lievesley, R., & Lapworth, R. (2022). "We Do Exist": The Experiences of Women Living with a Sexual Interest in Minors. Archives of sexual behavior, 51(2), 879–896. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-021-02160-z]		[https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8888496/ Lievesley, R., & Lapworth, R. (2022). "We Do Exist": The Experiences of Women Living with a Sexual Interest in Minors. Archives of sexual behavior, 51(2), 879–896. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-021-02160-z]

	Most pedophiles do not object to being identified as pedophiles and use this label alongside calling themselves maps.		=== "Self-identified maps reject being called pedophiles" ===
			'''TL;DR: Most pedophiles do not object to being identified as pedophiles and use this label alongside calling themselves maps.'''

	"Overall, quantitative data showed acceptance of “pedophile/hebephile” as well as a range of alternative labels in a personal (Labeling Oneself) and a professional context (Being Labeled by Others). “Minor-attracted person” and “pedophile/hebephile” received generally higher support than other terms and appeared to be least divisive across three major online fora."		"Overall, quantitative data showed acceptance of “pedophile/hebephile” as well as a range of alternative labels in a personal (Labeling Oneself) and a professional context (Being Labeled by Others). “Minor-attracted person” and “pedophile/hebephile” received generally higher support than other terms and appeared to be least divisive across three major online fora. <...> We detected the wordstem “hebe” or “pedo” (including spelling variants “paedo” or “pädo”) in 136 individual responses (i.e., 48%, not counting two cases where participants used it in a negative sense, e.g., "anything but pedophile"). Among these 136 participants, 100 explicitly included the words “pedophile” and/or “hebephile” or a close variant or combination (e.g., pedohebephile, nepiopedophile, pedo, homopaedophile, non-oﬀending pedophile) as a noun referring to a person."

	[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364024544_Pedophile_Child_Lover_or_Minor-Attracted_Person_Attitudes_Toward_Labels_Among_People_Who_are_Sexually_Attracted_to_Children Jahnke, Sara & Blagden, Nicholas & Hill, Laura. (2022). Pedophile, Child Lover, or Minor-Attracted Person? Attitudes Toward Labels Among People Who are Sexually Attracted to Children. Archives of Sexual Behavior. 51. 1-15. 10.1007/s10508-022-02331-6.]		[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364024544_Pedophile_Child_Lover_or_Minor-Attracted_Person_Attitudes_Toward_Labels_Among_People_Who_are_Sexually_Attracted_to_Children Jahnke, Sara & Blagden, Nicholas & Hill, Laura. (2022). Pedophile, Child Lover, or Minor-Attracted Person? Attitudes Toward Labels Among People Who are Sexually Attracted to Children. Archives of Sexual Behavior. 51. 1-15. 10.1007/s10508-022-02331-6.]
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	[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9 Martijn, F. M., Babchishin, K. M., Pullman, L. E., & Seto, M. C. (2020). Sexual Attraction and Falling in Love in Persons with Pedohebephilia. Archives of Sexual Behavior. doi:10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9]		[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9 Martijn, F. M., Babchishin, K. M., Pullman, L. E., & Seto, M. C. (2020). Sexual Attraction and Falling in Love in Persons with Pedohebephilia. Archives of Sexual Behavior. doi:10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9]

			"In general, participants endorsed multiple sexual orientation identities. From the list provided in the survey, and including any identities that participants elected to write-in, participants endorsed an average of 3.73 sexual orientation identities (SD = 1.63, range: 1-10). Specifically regarding minor attraction identities, participants endorsed an average of 2.53 identities (SD = 1.06, range: 0-5). The most commonly endorsed identity overall was “pedophile,” with 123 out of 160 participants identifying that way. Many participants also labeled themselves using other chronophilic labels, such as “hebephile” (N = 82) and “ephebophile” (N = 55)."

			[https://ecommons.cornell.edu/items/a86330d9-5a3d-4013-af85-667f9f2232a0 Cash, B.M. (2016). Self-Identifications, Sexual Development, And Wellbeing In Minor-Attracted People: An Exploratory Study.]

	=== "DSM listed pedophilia as a sexual orientation by mistake" ===		=== "DSM listed pedophilia as a sexual orientation by mistake" ===

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"'Map' is a politically correct term made up to normalize pedophilia"

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	[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Pedophilia Map Wiki, Pedophilia]		[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Pedophilia Map Wiki, Pedophilia]

			"We felt it was appropriate to include response options such as pedophile and hebephile as these terms are frequently used on online forums, even though these terms are not consistent with American Psychological Association guidelines regarding person-centered language. The most endorsed terms were child lover (51.6%), pedophile (51.0%), and Minor Attracted Person (40.2%). The total does not add up to 100% as participants could have chosen multiple answers."

			[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9 Martijn, F. M., Babchishin, K. M., Pullman, L. E., & Seto, M. C. (2020). Sexual Attraction and Falling in Love in Persons with Pedohebephilia. Archives of Sexual Behavior. doi:10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9]

	=== "DSM listed pedophilia as a sexual orientation by mistake" ===		=== "DSM listed pedophilia as a sexual orientation by mistake" ===

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Map demographics and society

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	[https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/19317611.2019.1609641 Jahnke, S., Schmitt, S., Geradt, M., & Hoyer, J. (2019). Big Five Personality Factors Among Men With a Sexual Interest in Children. International Journal of Sexual Health, 1–6. doi:10.1080/19317611.2019.1609641]		[https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/19317611.2019.1609641 Jahnke, S., Schmitt, S., Geradt, M., & Hoyer, J. (2019). Big Five Personality Factors Among Men With a Sexual Interest in Children. International Journal of Sexual Health, 1–6. doi:10.1080/19317611.2019.1609641]

			=== "Maps can't be queer" ===
			'''TL;DR: While maps can be heterosexual or cisgender, many still share some kind of a queer identity, and maps are more likely to be queer than the general population.'''

			"Participants showed a range of uses of queer-spectrum identity labels during interviews. While many, especially those attracted to the same or multiple genders, used "queer," "gay," "lesbian," or "bisexual" to describe themselves, and the majority of participants referred to their attractions as a sexual orientation, some individuals who used these terms felt guilt over doing so because of a belief that associating minor-attracted individuals with other queer groups would be harmful to those other queer communities."

			[https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/00918369.2019.1613856 Walker, A. (2019). “I’m Not like That, So Am I Gay?” The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People. Journal of Homosexuality, 1–24. doi:10.1080/00918369.2019.1613856]

			"An estimated 2 to 4% of teleiophilic men prefer men (Hall & Hall, 2007). Conversely, an estimated 9 to 40% of men with pedohebephilia have a preferential attraction to boys (Hall & Hall, 2007). <...> A quarter of the participants were exclusively boy-attracted (26.8%, n=82/306), half were boy-and-girl-attracted (48.4%; n = 148/306), and another quarter were exclusively girl-attracted (24.8%, n=76/306)."

			[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9 Martijn, F. M., Babchishin, K. M., Pullman, L. E., & Seto, M. C. (2020). Sexual Attraction and Falling in Love in Persons with Pedohebephilia. Archives of Sexual Behavior. doi:10.1007/s10508-019-01579-9]

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"Therapy for maps involves rejecting and/or changing the attraction"

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	4. To help patients learn to cope adaptively with the intense societal stigma against MAPs."		4. To help patients learn to cope adaptively with the intense societal stigma against MAPs."
	[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330635952_Correlates_of_Chronic_Suicidal_Ideation_Among_Community-Based_Minor-Attracted_Persons Cohen, Lisa & Wilman-Depena, Sherilyn & Barzilay, Shira & Hawes, Mariah & Yaseen, Zimri & Galynker, Igor. (2019). Correlates of Chronic Suicidal Ideation Among Community-Based Minor-Attracted Persons. Sexual Abuse. 32. 107906321982586. 10.1177/1079063219825868.]		[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330635952_Correlates_of_Chronic_Suicidal_Ideation_Among_Community-Based_Minor-Attracted_Persons Cohen, Lisa & Wilman-Depena, Sherilyn & Barzilay, Shira & Hawes, Mariah & Yaseen, Zimri & Galynker, Igor. (2019). Correlates of Chronic Suicidal Ideation Among Community-Based Minor-Attracted Persons. Sexual Abuse. 32. 107906321982586. 10.1177/1079063219825868.]

			"On the contrary, an emergent body of work with community-based MAPs discusses the successful use of masturbatory fantasies as a coping mechanism, with this acting as a healthy sexual outlet that causes no direct harm to minors (e.g., Bailey, Bernhard, & Hsu, Citation2016; Dymond & Duff, Citation2020; Harper & Lievesley, Citation2022; Houtepen et al., Citation2016). Indeed, the achievement of sexual satisfaction is seen by some theorists as a primary human good, with its attainment being associated with a reduction in the likelihood that somebody will go on to commit a sexual offense (Ward & Marshall, Citation2004). As such there may be ethical and practical discussions to be had between MAPs and treatment providers in relation to the most effective ways to help service users to accept their sexual attractions as a pattern of arousal that is potentially unchangeable over time, and to work with them to develop effective ways of reducing sexual frustration and achieving sexual satisfaction in ways that do not create victims of child sexual exploitation and abuse."

			[https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2149437#abstract Lievesley, R., Harper, C. A., Swaby, H., & Woodward, E. (2022). Identifying and working with appropriate treatment targets with people who are sexually attracted to children. Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 49(5), 497–516. https://doi.org/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2149437]

	=== "Maps don’t want to seek help" ===		=== "Maps don’t want to seek help" ===

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	'''TL;DR: There is a difference between the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder and pedophia, and this difference is acknowledged by professionals.'''		'''TL;DR: There is a difference between the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder and pedophia, and this difference is acknowledged by professionals.'''

	"Pedophilia is frequently equated to the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder. In reality, currently both the International Classification of Diseases (maintained by the World Health Organization) and Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (maintained by the American Psychiatric Association) recognize the difference between having an attraction to children and having a mental disorder.		Pedophilia is frequently equated to the diagnosis of pedophilic disorder. In reality, currently both the International Classification of Diseases (maintained by the World Health Organization) and Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (maintained by the American Psychiatric Association) recognize the difference between having an attraction to children and having a mental disorder.

	"If individuals also complain that their sexual attractions or preferences for children are causing marked distress or psychosocial difficulties, they may be diagnosed with pedophilic disorder.		"If individuals also complain that their sexual attractions or preferences for children are causing marked distress or psychosocial difficulties, they may be diagnosed with pedophilic disorder. However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual interest but not pedophilic disorder."
	However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual interest but not pedophilic disorder."

	[https://www.docdroid.net/1TkXiNH/dsm-5-tr-pdf#page=1487 DSM-5-TR, Pedophilic disorder]		[https://www.docdroid.net/1TkXiNH/dsm-5-tr-pdf#page=1487 DSM-5-TR, Pedophilic disorder]

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