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	== References ==		== References ==

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	=== Contact stances ===		=== Contact stances ===

	Newgon is a pro-contact organisation. Its stated goals are mostly related to destigmatization of youth attractions and sexual contact down to hebe age range (from 11 and above), as well as legalization of sex and marriage of adults with youth within this range. It promotes biologically and culturally essentialist view of hebephilia and ephebophilia, heavily leaning on the notion that girls are the most attractive and the most reproductively potent in the teen age range, and therefore it is "natural" for adult men to be primarily seeking them as sexual partners<ref>[https://archive.ph/GlukA File:Yessss.png], NewgonWiki via archive.today.</ref><ref>[https://archive.ph/00HOD File:Beachmeme.png], NewgonWiki via archive.today.</ref>.		Newgon is a pro-contact organisation. Its stated goals are mostly related to destigmatization of youth attractions and sexual contact down to hebe age range (from 11 and above), as well as legalization of sex and marriage of adults with youth within this range. It promotes biologically and culturally essentialist view of hebephilia and ephebophilia, heavily leaning on the notion that girls are the most attractive and the most reproductively potent in the teen age range, and therefore it is "natural" for adult men to be primarily seeking them as sexual partners<ref>[https://archive.ph/GlukA File:Yessss.png], NewgonWiki via archive.today.</ref><ref>[https://archive.ph/00HOD File:Beachmeme.png], NewgonWiki via archive.today.</ref>.

	Many of the materials on the NewgonWiki heavily suggest much wider spectrum of supported or tolerated views, such as "naturalness" of adult sexual contact with infants<ref name="M">[https://wierstamann.net/2023/06/25/ewgone-on-sex-with-babies/ Ewgone on sex with babies], via wierstamann.net, 25 June 2023.</ref>, rape apologism<ref>[https://archive.ph/6GgnE Rape] on NewgonWiki via archive.today, "Whilst as inherently damaging as any other form of highly intrusive physical assault, the psychological effects of rape often depend on taboo and post-traumatic intervention.".</ref><ref>[https://archive.ph/FHZZA List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities] on NewgonWiki via archive.today, "Sex Trafficking - Usually consensual economic illegal immigration related to the sex industry."</ref>.		Many of the materials on the NewgonWiki heavily suggest much wider spectrum of supported or tolerated views, such as "naturalness" of adult sexual contact with infants<ref name="M">[https://wierstamann.net/2023/06/25/ewgone-on-sex-with-babies/ Ewgone on sex with babies], via wierstamann.net, 25 June 2023.</ref>, rape apologism<ref>[https://archive.ph/6GgnE Rape] on NewgonWiki via archive.today, "Whilst as inherently damaging as any other form of highly intrusive physical assault, the psychological effects of rape often depend on taboo and post-traumatic intervention.".</ref><ref>[https://archive.ph/FHZZA List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities] on NewgonWiki via archive.today, "Sex Trafficking - Usually consensual economic illegal immigration related to the sex industry."</ref>.
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	Newgon also has been criticized for bigotry, such as misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, fatphobia, mapmisia, as well as ethnonationalist views, perpetuated on the wiki and in personal communication (see [Newgon/Records]).		Newgon also has been criticized for bigotry, such as misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, fatphobia, mapmisia, as well as ethnonationalist views, perpetuated on the wiki and in personal communication (see [Newgon/Records]).

	== Activities and strategies ==		== Activities and strategies ==
	=== Wiki ===		=== Wiki ===

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Iris at 20:19, 28 July 2024

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			Strategist also uses the derogatory term "moralfag"<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Jim_Burton/112805034220816471 Fediverse reply by @Jim_Burton], via fedi.yesmap.net, 17 July 2024.</ref>, a 4chan-originated insult utilizing the f-slur with homophobic premises.

	===== Transphobia =====		===== Transphobia =====

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	One instance of particularly egregious transphobic harassment in PCMA was against a trans woman ~~going by the username emilieduturfu~~. She had observed the constant transphobia/transmisogyny in PCMA as well as many other forms of bigotry. One day, stefibealipton, a neo-Nazi, posted a transmisogynistic wojak caricature meme in the chat. ~~Emilie~~ replied with a long rant where she expressed frustration over the constant transmisogyny and transphobia (as well other queerphobia, antifeminism, and racist xenophobia) in PCMA, while the privileged bigots disregarded how their rhetoric, "jokes" and myths are part of a culture which contributes to violence and oppression against trans people in real life. She expressed her own trauma from past offline transmisogynistic violence and from having to live in a world where there is escalating anti-trans oppression that cis people don't (have to) understand the gravity of. She also expressed a desire to retaliate against the transphobes in Newgon. Other members found her distress amusing and mocked her for showing emotion, casting her as hysterical or "unhinged." Her vent made in the midst of a difficult moment was screenshotted and posted onto fediverse with mocking commentary. Newgon members employed DARVO-like tactics against her (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender), portraying her as the primary aggressor in the situation and her reaction as entirely unreasonable, even normally unthinkable, to pathologize and "other" her.		One instance of particularly egregious transphobic harassment in PCMA was against a trans woman. She had observed the constant transphobia/transmisogyny in PCMA as well as many other forms of bigotry. One day, stefibealipton, a neo-Nazi, posted a transmisogynistic wojak caricature meme in the chat. The trans woman replied with a long rant where she expressed frustration over the constant transmisogyny and transphobia (as well other queerphobia, antifeminism, and racist xenophobia) in PCMA, while the privileged bigots disregarded how their rhetoric, "jokes" and myths are part of a culture which contributes to violence and oppression against trans people in real life. She expressed her own trauma from past offline transmisogynistic violence and from having to live in a world where there is escalating anti-trans oppression that cis people don't (have to) understand the gravity of. She also expressed a desire to retaliate against the transphobes in Newgon. Other members found her distress amusing and mocked her for showing emotion, casting her as hysterical or "unhinged." Her vent made in the midst of a difficult moment was screenshotted and posted onto fediverse with mocking commentary. Newgon members employed DARVO-like tactics against her (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender), portraying her as the primary aggressor in the situation and her reaction as entirely unreasonable, even normally unthinkable, to pathologize and "other" her.

	For once, Strategist took action against someone perceived to be doing wrong in PCMA, although for numerous other times where users engaged in types of rhetoric or behavior he claims he and PCMA care about stopping, absolutely nothing was done. Their values and priorities are quite clear.		For once, Strategist took action against someone perceived to be doing wrong in PCMA, although for numerous other times where users engaged in types of rhetoric or behavior he claims he and PCMA care about stopping, absolutely nothing was done. Their values and priorities are quite clear.

	When Iris expressed agreement with ~~Emilie~~'s frustration with Newgon, recognizing how she was being victimized and supporting the principle of resistance against oppressors, Strategist took this as an "endorsement" of ~~Emilie's~~ entire message thus more fuel for regarding ~~Emilie~~ as "unhinged" or hysterical or unreasonable, and worthy of mockery, and henceforth demonized her further whenever discussing the incident by portraying her as close to/approved by Iris and thus to share a similar pariah status as Iris, who was at the time experiencing harassment and smear campaigns from Newgon. This was in spite of the fact that Iris has barely ever interacted with ~~Emilie~~, does not know her personally at all, and dislikes pro-contactism in general (~~Emilie~~ mentioned being pro-c in her message several times).		When Iris expressed agreement with the woman's frustration with Newgon, recognizing how she was being victimized and supporting the principle of resistance against oppressors, Strategist took this as an "endorsement" of her entire message thus more fuel for regarding her as "unhinged" or hysterical or unreasonable, and worthy of mockery, and henceforth demonized her further whenever discussing the incident by portraying her as close to/approved by Iris and thus to share a similar pariah status as Iris, who was at the time experiencing harassment and smear campaigns from Newgon. This was in spite of the fact that Iris has barely ever interacted with her, does not know her personally at all, and dislikes pro-contactism in general (she mentioned being pro-c in her message several times).

	StefiBeaLipton continues to gloat over the incident today, parading around the past evidence of her distress, such as in a fediverse post on May 21, 2024<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@StefiBeaLipton/112479845412252371 Fediverse post by @StefiBeaLipton], via fedi.yesmap.net, 21 May 2024.</ref>. In reply to Stefi's post, Hina colorized the image for further meme-like effects<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Hina/112484137279421235 Fediverse reply by @Hina], via fedi.yesmap.net, 22 May 2024.</ref> and said, "tales from PCMA"<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Hina/112484145624563713 @Hina], via fedi.yesmap.net, 22 May 2024.</ref>.		StefiBeaLipton continues to gloat over the incident today, parading around the past evidence of her distress, such as in a fediverse post on May 21, 2024<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@StefiBeaLipton/112479845412252371 Fediverse post by @StefiBeaLipton], via fedi.yesmap.net, 21 May 2024.</ref>. In reply to Stefi's post, Hina colorized the image for further meme-like effects<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Hina/112484137279421235 Fediverse reply by @Hina], via fedi.yesmap.net, 22 May 2024.</ref> and said, "tales from PCMA"<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Hina/112484145624563713 @Hina], via fedi.yesmap.net, 22 May 2024.</ref>.

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	Much of Newgon is based around priming doubt, hostility, and dismissal against abuse or sexual violence survivors, anti-abuse theory and terminology, and the notion that such things are wrong and that vulnerable classes and survivors deserve justice and liberation from abuse. People who step out of line are often met with mockery and scorn.		Much of Newgon is based around priming doubt, hostility, and dismissal against abuse or sexual violence survivors, anti-abuse theory and terminology, and the notion that such things are wrong and that vulnerable classes and survivors deserve justice and liberation from abuse. People who step out of line are often met with mockery and scorn.

	Newgon takes issue with the terms "safeguarding," "grooming," "sexualization," "age-appropriate," "survivor," "sex trafficking," "child trafficking," "consent," "informed consent," "child sexual abuse," "child sexual abuse material," "trauma informed approach," "commercial sexual exploitation of children," "adolescence," "covert incest," "feminism," "sexual violence," "teen dating violence," "violence against women and girls," "rape," "child pornography," and "indecent images of children," as if these issues simply don't exist or need to be discussed clearly. According to its "List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities," "rape" is "a term that once had a very certain meaning is now virtually redundant"<ref name="T" />. It believes "informed consent" is an "arbitrary"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Cognitive_ability_%3D_consent Debate Guide: Cognitive ability = consent], via NewgonWiki.</ref> and "problematic" concept that "objectifies" and "results in gaslighting."		Newgon takes issue with the terms "safeguarding," "grooming," "sexualization," "age-appropriate," "survivor," "sex trafficking," "child trafficking," "consent," "informed consent," "child sexual abuse," "child sexual abuse material," "trauma informed approach," "commercial sexual exploitation of children," "adolescence," "covert incest," "feminism," "sexual violence," "teen dating violence," "violence against women and girls," "rape," "child pornography," and "indecent images of children," as if these experiences, concepts, and issues simply don't exist or need to be discussed clearly. According to its "List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities," "rape" is "a term that once had a very certain meaning is now virtually redundant"<ref name="T" />. It believes "informed consent" is an "arbitrary"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Cognitive_ability_%3D_consent Debate Guide: Cognitive ability = consent], via NewgonWiki.</ref> and "problematic" concept that "objectifies" and "results in gaslighting."

	Newgon makes the bizarre case that "Sexual Violence and Teen Dating Violence" are "conflatory terms that stem from and give rise to the assumption that sexual impulses and young people must be controlled in order to prevent harm"<ref name="T">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/List_of_obfuscatory_terms_used_by_authorities List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. The terms simply denote the presence of violence. It is of course possible for some people to attach inaccurate assumptions to them when using them in a particular way, but the terms themselves do not prescribe particular methods to prevent them, whether control or otherwise. They do not inherently imply young people and older people would need different interventions; the term "sexual violence" does not even mention anything about age at all. "Sexual violence" does not conflate harmful and non-harmful or problematic and non-problematic sex, but it makes sense that Newgon would assume any use of the term is automatically conflatory if they themselves already conflate all sex with things that would qualify as sexual violence, or vice versa, and don't think sexual violence is problematic in the first place; likewise for intimate partner violence/abuse experienced by teens.		Newgon makes the bizarre case that "Sexual Violence and Teen Dating Violence" are "conflatory terms that stem from and give rise to the assumption that sexual impulses and young people must be controlled in order to prevent harm"<ref name="T">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/List_of_obfuscatory_terms_used_by_authorities List of obfuscatory terms used by authorities], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. The terms simply denote the presence of violence. It is of course possible for some people to attach inaccurate assumptions to them when using them in a particular way, but the terms themselves do not prescribe particular methods to prevent them, whether control or otherwise. They do not inherently imply young people and older people would need different interventions; the term "sexual violence" does not even mention anything about age at all. "Sexual violence" does not conflate harmful and non-harmful or problematic and non-problematic sex, but it makes sense that Newgon would assume any use of the term is automatically conflatory if they themselves already conflate all sex with things that would qualify as sexual violence, or vice versa, and don't think sexual violence is problematic in the first place; likewise for intimate partner violence/abuse experienced by teens.
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	Through the Newgon Wiki, the moderators of PCMA released an "official statement on the 2023 conflict between Israel and Palestine" packed with numerous antisemitic tropes, dogwhistles, factual inaccuracies, and problematic arguments, exploiting the current Palestinian genocide to spread antisemitism. Among these include the wildly revisionist claim that <em>"It should be noted that all scholars of the Holocaust acknowledge that the decision to annihilate European Jews and the planning to carry it out was kept top secret by the Nazi state. No statement from Hitler, public or otherwise, exists where he admits his intention to exterminate the Jewish people entirely. At this late date, we can say with firm confidence that such a statement will never be found; one also struggles with great difficulty to find openly genocidal public statements from other top Nazis</em>,<em>"</em> and suddenly inserting the claim that the French president Emmanuel Macron is "a former Rothschild banker." They attempt to exceptionalize genocide perpetrated by Israelis as uniquely and incomparably horrific among all other genocides and Israeli settler-colonialism as uniquely protected and powerful out of a false, antisemitic belief that Jewishness would lend special, unmatchable, overwhelmingly stifling strength to a state because Jews are somehow disproportionately powerful in society and have control over Western governments<ref name="R">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Essay:The_Zionists_Are_Our_Enemies Essay:The Zionists Are Our Enemies], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.		Through the Newgon Wiki, the moderators of PCMA released an "official statement on the 2023 conflict between Israel and Palestine" packed with numerous antisemitic tropes, dogwhistles, factual inaccuracies, and problematic arguments, exploiting the current Palestinian genocide to spread antisemitism. Among these include the wildly revisionist<ref>[https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/statements.htm Statements by Hitler and Senior Nazis Concerning Jews and Judaism], via phdn.org.</ref><ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution Final Solution], via Wikipedia.</ref> claim that <em>"It should be noted that all scholars of the Holocaust acknowledge that the decision to annihilate European Jews and the planning to carry it out was kept top secret by the Nazi state. No statement from Hitler, public or otherwise, exists where he admits his intention to exterminate the Jewish people entirely. At this late date, we can say with firm confidence that such a statement will never be found; one also struggles with great difficulty to find openly genocidal public statements from other top Nazis</em>,<em>"</em> and suddenly inserting the claim that the French president Emmanuel Macron is "a former Rothschild banker," drawing on common antisemitic tropes<ref>Armin Langer, [https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110729740-008/html Dog-Whistle Politics as a Strategy of American Nationalists and Populists: George Soros, the Rothschilds, and Other Conspiracy Theories], via degruyter.com.</ref>. They attempt to exceptionalize genocide perpetrated by Israelis as uniquely and incomparably horrific among all other genocides and Israeli settler-colonialism as uniquely protected and powerful out of a false, antisemitic belief that Jewishness would lend special, unmatchable, overwhelmingly stifling strength to a state because Jews are somehow disproportionately powerful in society and have control over Western governments<ref name="R">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Essay:The_Zionists_Are_Our_Enemies Essay:The Zionists Are Our Enemies], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.

	One of the signatories of the statement, "AnonymousLover," has made it more clear in social media posts that he believes anti-Israeli speech is censored and Western nations enact repression in support of Israel's violence because ''"Jewish billionaires and voters across the West largely support Israel.… Israeli intelligence is effective because Israel has Jewish sympathizers throughout the world it can draw on"'' and that Israel's backers in the American establishment are "super rich Jews." He dismisses the notion of critiquing antisemitic conspiracy theories and argues that posts claiming "anti-zionism isn't antisemitism" are merely "cope posts" (i.e., false), but indicates that he considers himself anti-Zionist, which implies he is admitting that he is antisemitic<ref name="S">[https://nnia.space/@aronarchy/111574313761320867 Fediverse reply by @aronarchy], via nnia.space, 13 December 2023.</ref>.		One of the signatories of the statement, "AnonymousLover," has made it more clear in social media posts that he believes anti-Israeli speech is censored and Western nations enact repression in support of Israel's violence because ''"Jewish billionaires and voters across the West largely support Israel.… Israeli intelligence is effective because Israel has Jewish sympathizers throughout the world it can draw on"'' and that Israel's backers in the American establishment are "super rich Jews." He dismisses the notion of critiquing antisemitic conspiracy theories and argues that posts claiming "anti-zionism isn't antisemitism" are merely "cope posts" (i.e., false), but indicates that he considers himself anti-Zionist, which implies he is admitting that he is antisemitic<ref name="S">[https://nnia.space/@aronarchy/111574313761320867 Fediverse reply by @aronarchy], via nnia.space, 13 December 2023.</ref>.
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	The statement says, ''"It appears that the European elite cares more for the state of Israel than it does about Democracy, Free Speech, or even their own countries! Citizens and residents of Britain, France, and Germany appear to be free to denounce their countries as racist colonialist oppressors with no redeeming qualities that should be burned to the ground but when it comes to Israel? Now that's a different story!"''<ref name="R" />, showing a dismissive attitude toward the struggles of other racialized peoples, portraying them as much more safe and privileged than they actually are, and downplaying the tremendous oppression which the European colonial powers have enacted and continue to enact upon them.		The statement says, ''"It appears that the European elite cares more for the state of Israel than it does about Democracy, Free Speech, or even their own countries! Citizens and residents of Britain, France, and Germany appear to be free to denounce their countries as racist colonialist oppressors with no redeeming qualities that should be burned to the ground but when it comes to Israel? Now that's a different story!"''<ref name="R" />, showing a dismissive attitude toward the struggles of other racialized peoples, portraying them as much more safe and privileged than they actually are, and downplaying the tremendous oppression which the European colonial powers have enacted and continue to enact upon them.

	Further callous exploitation of Palestinian trauma can be observed as the statement veers from criticizing U.S. President Joe Biden's backing of the genocide to attacking the Democrats for introducing a bill "that ends the statute of limitations at the national scale for real and perceived victims of CSA." The statement subtly invalidates CSA survivors by claiming that accusers falsely "perceive" abuse where there was none. It tries to portray accused child sexual abusers as widely disadvantaged, threatened, and oppressed and assumes an automatic, necessary connection between child sexual abuse perpetrators (or individuals who would be accused of CSA) and "real or perceived MAPs" (and refuses to allow the possibility that it could be anyone else). The authors weaponize genuine Palestinian grievances to shoehorn in a reactionary, fearmongering agenda against an imagined threat of widespread false CSA accusations and unjust legal ruin, using language which promotes bigotry against both CSA survivors and maps. They clumsily attempt to appeal to an audience of "MAPs" (whom they seem to conflate with CSA perpetrators, aspiring perpetrators, apologists, and/or a group functionally indistinguishable from actual perpetrators) and portray themselves as heroic representatives of a heroic, homogenous demographic of "MAPs" because <em>"That the decision to release a statement on the Israel-Palestine conflict met unanimous assent from our moderation team is a solid indication of where MAPs stand</em>,<em>"</em> with a contrived argument that their posturing about Israel is specifically relevant to map issues (which they conflate with preservation of CSA's hegemonic status, along with several things that are actually ''children's'' issues, although interpreted through a narrow and ultimately anti-child lens) because ''"MAPs and all caring people should note that Gaza's population is extremely young, with 44% of the population being 14 or below. The planned expulsion and even extermination of at least a million children should provoke outrage and hatred in every child lover.… MAPs should refuse to fight wars for a system that hates them, especially wars on behalf of Israel. MAPs should speak out against child killers, including the child killers of the Netanyahu government"'' and that "MAPs residing in Western countries" apparently will likely be "propagandized or drafted to fight in this escalating conflict" so they apparently needed to share a dissuading "statement"<ref name="R" />—all while doing nearly as much as they can to back ideologies and policies which would actually harm children, especially Palestinian children<ref>[https://www.mecaforpeace.org/israel-240-palestinian-children-sexually-abused-in-jerusalem-detention-centres-group-claims/ Israel: 240 Palestinian Children 'Sexually Abused' in Jerusalem Detention Centres, Group Claims], via Middle East Children's Alliance – Meca for Peace, 2 December ~~2024 ''— (the anti~~-~~CSA struggle is closely tied to the anti~~-~~colonial struggle~~, ~~as patriarchy~~/~~adultism~~/sexual ~~violence ideology and colonialism/racism are overlapping systems)''~~.</ref><ref>Emily Wight, [https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian Stripped, beaten and blindfolded: new research reveals ongoing violence and abuse of Palestinian children detained by Israeli military], via Save the Children, 10 July 2023 ''— (includes reporting about systematic CSA of Palestinian children in the Israel military detention system)''.</ref><ref>Yasmin El-Rifae, [https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/articles/to-know-what-they-know To Know What They Know], via Parapraxis ''— (an intersectional youth liberationist analysis of the oppression and abuse of Palestinian children)''.</ref>.		Further callous exploitation of Palestinian trauma can be observed as the statement veers from criticizing U.S. President Joe Biden's backing of the genocide to attacking the Democrats for introducing a bill "that ends the statute of limitations at the national scale for real and perceived victims of CSA." The statement subtly invalidates CSA survivors by claiming that accusers falsely "perceive" abuse where there was none. It tries to portray accused child sexual abusers as widely disadvantaged, threatened, and oppressed and assumes an automatic, necessary connection between child sexual abuse perpetrators (or individuals who would be accused of CSA) and "real or perceived MAPs" (and refuses to allow the possibility that it could be anyone else). The authors weaponize genuine Palestinian grievances to shoehorn in a reactionary, fearmongering agenda against an imagined threat of widespread false CSA accusations and unjust legal ruin, using language which promotes bigotry against both CSA survivors and maps. They clumsily attempt to appeal to an audience of "MAPs" (whom they seem to conflate with CSA perpetrators, aspiring perpetrators, apologists, and/or a group functionally indistinguishable from actual perpetrators) and portray themselves as heroic representatives of a heroic, homogenous demographic of "MAPs" because <em>"That the decision to release a statement on the Israel-Palestine conflict met unanimous assent from our moderation team is a solid indication of where MAPs stand</em>,<em>"</em> with a contrived argument that their posturing about Israel is specifically relevant to map issues (which they conflate with preservation of CSA's hegemonic status, along with several things that are actually ''children's'' issues, although interpreted through a narrow and ultimately anti-child lens) because ''"MAPs and all caring people should note that Gaza's population is extremely young, with 44% of the population being 14 or below. The planned expulsion and even extermination of at least a million children should provoke outrage and hatred in every child lover.… MAPs should refuse to fight wars for a system that hates them, especially wars on behalf of Israel. MAPs should speak out against child killers, including the child killers of the Netanyahu government"'' and that "MAPs residing in Western countries" apparently will likely be "propagandized or drafted to fight in this escalating conflict" so they apparently needed to share a dissuading "statement"<ref name="R" />—all while doing nearly as much as they can to back ideologies and policies which would actually harm children, especially Palestinian children<ref>[https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/dci-palestine-submits-14-cases-sexual-assault-and-threats-un DCI - Palestine submits 14 cases of sexual assault and threats to the UN for investigation], via ReliefWeb, 18 May 2010 ''— (the anti-CSA struggle is closely tied to the anti-colonial struggle, as patriarchy/adultism/sexual violence ideology and colonialism/racism are overlapping systems)''.</ref><ref>Stephen Lendman, [https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-soldiers-sexually-abuse-palestinian-children/ Israeli Soldiers Sexually Abuse Palestinian Children], via Palestine Chronicle, 13 September 2010.</ref><ref>[https://www.mecaforpeace.org/israel-240-palestinian-children-sexually-abused-in-jerusalem-detention-centres-group-claims/ Israel: 240 Palestinian Children 'Sexually Abused' in Jerusalem Detention Centres, Group Claims], via Middle East Children's Alliance – Meca for Peace, 2 December 2014.</ref><ref>[https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/82544 Reports of Israeli Sexual Abuse Committed against Detained Palestinian Children], via WAFA News Agency, 31 December 2015.</ref><ref>[https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_interrogator_sexually_assaults_palestinian_child_detainee Israeli interrogator sexually assaults Palestinian child detainee], via Defense for Children International - Palestine, 10 February 2021.</ref><ref>Katherine Hearst, [https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-ngo-shut-down-reporting-sexual-assault-ex-us Israel-Palestine War: Israel shut down NGO for reporting rape of teenager, ex-US official says], via Middle East Eye, 5 December 2023.</ref><ref>Emily Wight, [https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian Stripped, beaten and blindfolded: new research reveals ongoing violence and abuse of Palestinian children detained by Israeli military], via Save the Children, 10 July 2023 ''— (includes reporting about systematic CSA of Palestinian children in the Israel military detention system)''.</ref><ref>[https://www.savethechildren.net/news/palestinian-children-israeli-military-detention-report-increasingly-violent-conditions Palestinian Children in Israeli Military Detention Report Increasingly Violent Conditions], via Save the Children, 29 February 2024 ''— (mentions sexual violence)''.</ref><ref>Yasmin El-Rifae, [https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/articles/to-know-what-they-know To Know What They Know], via Parapraxis ''— (an intersectional youth liberationist analysis of the oppression and abuse of Palestinian children. Racism and adultism are co-constitutive oppressions; one cannot fight one without fighting the other)''.</ref>.

	At various times, other PCMA members have praised the statement in discussions, completely overlooking its problematic aspects such as its racism, antisemitism, child sexual abuse apologia, and overall ignorance. During one such discussion, another member—a self-proclaimed "anti-Semite"—criticized the choice to publish the statement and made genocidal comments about the Palestinian people.		At various times, other PCMA members have praised the statement in discussions, completely overlooking its problematic aspects such as its racism, antisemitism, child sexual abuse apologia, and overall ignorance. During one such discussion, another member—a self-proclaimed "anti-Semite"—criticized the choice to publish the statement and made genocidal comments about the Palestinian people.

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	Newgon uses the term "mentally retarded"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Statutory_rape Statutory rape], via NewgonWiki.</ref> to refer to cognitively disabled people. Newgon hosts an image file "Retards.png," titled "Retarded or perturbed pedophile myth," and titled in the graphic itself as "The ''Retarded'' and ''Perturbed''… 'Pedophile Degenerate.'" The text of the graphic seems to be trying to prove that pedophiles are more acceptable and less "degenerate" because they have relatively "normal" or greater intellectual capacities and executive functioning<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Research:_Offender_characteristics#/media/File:Retards.png Retarded or perturbed pedophile myth], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. In a guide to "Social Media and Trolling," Newgon recommends that users insult an opponent as "mid-witted, with an IQ between 80 and 110" and "retarded"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Social_Media_and_Trolling Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. Newgon says of two antis, "Achievement 'retard' unlocked"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/List_of_anti-MAP_quotes#/media/File:Epstein.png Epsteins everywhere.], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.		Newgon uses the term "mentally retarded"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Statutory_rape Statutory rape], via NewgonWiki.</ref> to refer to cognitively disabled people. Newgon hosts an image file "Retards.png," titled "Retarded or perturbed pedophile myth," and titled in the graphic itself as "The ''Retarded'' and ''Perturbed''… 'Pedophile Degenerate.'" The text of the graphic seems to be trying to prove that pedophiles are more acceptable and less "degenerate" because they have relatively "normal" or greater intellectual capacities and executive functioning<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Research:_Offender_characteristics#/media/File:Retards.png Retarded or perturbed pedophile myth], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. In a guide to "Social Media and Trolling," Newgon recommends that users insult an opponent as "mid-witted, with an IQ between 80 and 110" and "retarded"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Social_Media_and_Trolling Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. Newgon says of two antis, "Achievement 'retard' unlocked"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/List_of_anti-MAP_quotes#/media/File:Epstein.png Epsteins everywhere.], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.

	Generally, according to Newgon's ideology, adult-youth sexual involvement is not harmful or abusive, and to bolster this claim, Newgon argues that these cases are usually mild, nonviolent, and basically normal, contrary to the popular stereotypes of all such behavior involving an extremely violent, threatening, deviant adult, which is allegedly required to sustain a view that all of it is wrong. Newgon does sometimes acknowledge that "real abuse" involving "actual" nonconsent or violence occurs sometimes, though it generally claims these events are rare, outliers to the norm, carried out by a few deviant individuals, or unfortunate mistakes resulting from adults being "driven" to abuse by society's allegedly excessive stigmatization of CSA or other unrelated situational stress factors. Since it lacks a political analysis of child sexual abuse as a function of oppression, it instead tends to choose a class of "psychopaths" to scapegoat for more "extreme" intentional offenses, believing that a mental illness or neurodivergence such as "psychopathy" must uniformly be their cause, such as in this sentence: "Psychopathic crimes are of course a completely different class from the aforementioned two, and thankfully very rare."<ref name="U">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Power_disparity Debate Guide: Power disparity], via NewgonWiki.</ref> Newgon has an entire research page dedicated to buttressing its ableist, biased views about "psychopathy" and other "abnormal psychology" or mental illnesses being problematic and tying mental normality or healthiness to virtue<ref>[[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Research:_Psychopathy_and_abnormal_psychology Research: Psychopathy and abnormal psychology]], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.		Generally, according to Newgon's ideology, adult-youth sexual involvement is not harmful or abusive, and to bolster this claim, Newgon argues that these cases are usually mild, nonviolent, and basically normal, contrary to the popular stereotypes of all such behavior involving an extremely violent, threatening, deviant adult, which is allegedly required to sustain a view that all of it is wrong. Newgon does sometimes acknowledge that "real abuse" involving "actual" nonconsent or violence occurs sometimes, though it generally claims these events are rare, outliers to the norm, carried out by a few deviant individuals, or unfortunate mistakes resulting from adults being "driven" to abuse by society's allegedly excessive stigmatization of CSA or other unrelated situational stress factors. Since it lacks a political analysis of child sexual abuse as a function of oppression, it instead tends to choose a class of "psychopaths" to scapegoat for more "extreme" intentional offenses, believing that a mental illness or neurodivergence such as "psychopathy" must uniformly be their cause, such as in this sentence: "Psychopathic crimes are of course a completely different class from the aforementioned two, and thankfully very rare."<ref name="U">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Power_disparity Debate Guide: Power disparity], via NewgonWiki.</ref> Newgon has an entire research page dedicated to buttressing its ableist, biased views about "psychopathy" and other "abnormal psychology" or mental illnesses being problematic and tying mental normality or healthiness to virtue<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Research:_Psychopathy_and_abnormal_psychology Research: Psychopathy and abnormal psychology], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.

	Newgon's article "Debate Guide: Abuse of language," which argues that "child sexual abuse" is a problematic term which manipulates people into authoritarianism, contains the following:		Newgon's article "Debate Guide: Abuse of language," which argues that "child sexual abuse" is a problematic term which manipulates people into authoritarianism, contains the following:
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	Now, on BoyChat, JohnHolt insults "woke ASPD antisocial activists off Fedi"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620050.htm It's an undeniable fact.], via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>. He tries to denigrate and discredit various left-leaning map activists for being so-called "psychopaths"<ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref name="AA" /> and attacks them for identifying as mentally ill<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1622969.htm The argument was used against MAPs.], via BoyChat, 31 January 2024.</ref>. The Newgon Wiki attempts to denigrate and discredit ~~Map Wiki editor~~ Iris for describing themself as mentally ill<ref name="D">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Template:NNMisinfo Template:NNMisinfo], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It insults its critics for supposedly having "OCD character traits"<ref name="B" />.		Now, on BoyChat, JohnHolt insults "woke ASPD antisocial activists off Fedi"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620050.htm It's an undeniable fact.], via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>. He tries to denigrate and discredit various left-leaning map activists for supposedly being so-called "psychopaths"<ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref name="AA" /> and attacks them for identifying as mentally ill<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1622969.htm The argument was used against MAPs.], via BoyChat, 31 January 2024.</ref>. On June 7, 2024, JohnHolt published a diatribe attempting to debunk Lecter's anti-contact youth liberationist positions which devolved into ad hominems attacking him for having ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) and blaming this for allegedly bad activism<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628526.htm On the Anti-c 'Youth Liberationist'.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 7 June 2024.</ref>. The Newgon Wiki attempts to denigrate and discredit Iris for describing themself as mentally ill<ref name="D">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Template:NNMisinfo Template:NNMisinfo], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It insults its critics for supposedly having "OCD character traits"<ref name="B" />.

	One of the "Informational memes" on the "Memes and Graphics" page, titled "Minors Beware" and tagged with "antis," "warning," "minors," "consent," "advice," "youth," and "guide"<ref name="A" />, says,		One of the "Informational memes" on the "Memes and Graphics" page, titled "Minors Beware" and tagged with "antis," "warning," "minors," "consent," "advice," "youth," and "guide"<ref name="A" />, says,

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	Newgon promotes the transmisogynistic belief that the LGBT community forces cis gay youth to transition into girls<ref>[https://archive.ph/HTe1k Lgbgender] via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It uses the transmisogynistic phrasing "women and transwomen"<ref name="C">[https://archive.ph/08rh9 of Newgon], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.		Newgon promotes the transmisogynistic belief that the LGBT community forces cis gay youth to transition into girls<ref>[https://archive.ph/HTe1k Lgbgender] via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It uses the transmisogynistic phrasing "women and transwomen"<ref name="C">[https://archive.ph/08rh9 of Newgon], via NewgonWiki.</ref>.

	Newgon referred to Allyn Walker as a "trans academic who was attacked for 'misappropriating queer experiences' by activists in his own University's trans umbrella organization," misgendering them with incorrect pronouns<ref>[https://archive.ph/r9y6Z SJWs Always Lie], NewgonWiki as of 12:07, 24 June 2023.</ref>. After receiving backlash, it corrected the pronoun to "their"<ref>[https://archive.ph/9bLJb SJWs Always Lie], NewgonWiki as of 15:50, 28 August 2023.</ref>.		Newgon referred to Allyn Walker as a "trans academic who was attacked for 'misappropriating queer experiences' by activists in his own University's trans umbrella organization," misgendering them with incorrect pronouns<ref>[https://archive.ph/r9y6Z SJWs Always Lie], NewgonWiki as of 12:07, 24 June 2023.</ref>. After receiving backlash, it corrected the pronoun to "their"<ref>[https://archive.ph/9bLJb SJWs Always Lie], NewgonWiki as of 15:50, 28 August 2023.</ref>. However, on June 17, 2024, a year later, JohnHolt on BoyChat misgendered them again, saying "Allyn Walker seemed to endorse use of this in his book"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628912.htm 'Pro-contact' is considered a cringe term.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 17 June 2024.</ref>. It is extremely difficult to believe that this could have been multiple accidental mistakes in a row not caused by any transphobia at all.

	Newgon referred to the transfeminine activist ZeebDemon as "trans (female-identifying)" instead of simply "trans female"<ref>[https://archive.ph/r9loO Youth Attracted Person], NewgonWiki as of 22:24, 9 August 2023.</ref>, implicitly delegitimizing trans female identity as mere subjective "identification" which can be challenged by outsiders with superior interpretations of a transfem's gender experience, rather than a statement of fact which she herself is the foremost expert on. (Newgon does not refer to cis women or girls as "female-identifying," just "female.") After receiving backlash, Newgon changed the section to say "trans-woman" instead<ref>[https://archive.ph/X2DSk Youth Attracted Person], NewgonWiki as of 02:45, 30 August 2023.</ref>.		Newgon referred to the transfeminine activist ZeebDemon as "trans (female-identifying)" instead of simply "trans female"<ref>[https://archive.ph/r9loO Youth Attracted Person], NewgonWiki as of 22:24, 9 August 2023.</ref>, implicitly delegitimizing trans female identity as mere subjective "identification" which can be challenged by outsiders with superior interpretations of a transfem's gender experience, rather than a statement of fact which she herself is the foremost expert on. (Newgon does not refer to cis women or girls as "female-identifying," just "female.") After receiving backlash, Newgon changed the section to say "trans-woman" instead<ref>[https://archive.ph/X2DSk Youth Attracted Person], NewgonWiki as of 02:45, 30 August 2023.</ref>.
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	The first screenshot demonstrates how PCMA members could mostly tolerate non-pro-c and non- contact-discourse-participating youth liberationists if they remained appearing to be neutral or didn't say anything anti-c, but if they began to express an opinion, especially if they stuck to it and fought for it, PCMA would quickly turn hostile and view the person as an enemy instead of an ally, e.g. in this early 2023 discussion of the Twitter anti-c youth liberationist celebrity kid (who is not a part of the paraphilia communities). poikarn90 uses the term "victimological" to describe their view that children are "sexually available to adults" as a result of adultism. PCMA members deny the claim as merely a form of mapmisia, although celebrity kid arrived at that conclusion based on the evidently high rates of child sexual abuse by adults in society according to research and lived experiences. The Newgon Strategist suggested tactics to try to win them over, perceiving their youth liberationist views as providing an inherent "adjacency" to pro-contactism. In the part of the conversation shown in the second screenshot, the rhetoric became overtly toxic, as Strategist misgendered celebrity kid (a nonbinary person) as "he" (although their Twitter profile very clearly stated that their pronouns are "it/they," and others in the server managed to gender them correctly) and suggested guilt-tripping them with their own values to "tease" them for adopting "CSA victimology." That Strategist can be so casual about weaponizing anti-adultist social norms in youth liberationist spaces, which could minimize people's trust in and willingness to adhere to them, shows how he cares more about his/Newgon's own agendas than being considerate to youth issues. Elsewhere, his lack of consideration/willingness to sabotage youth liberation efforts has been even more clear. The more moderate, less hostile members of the above discussion have since diminished in influence in Newgon/PCMA. Without many (relatively) serious youth liberation advocates left, in the months following, (more) overt neo-Nazism took hold in Newgon/PCMA, as well as normalized acceptance of overt adultism/opposition to youth liberation.		The first screenshot demonstrates how PCMA members could mostly tolerate non-pro-c and non- contact-discourse-participating youth liberationists if they remained appearing to be neutral or didn't say anything anti-c, but if they began to express an opinion, especially if they stuck to it and fought for it, PCMA would quickly turn hostile and view the person as an enemy instead of an ally, e.g. in this early 2023 discussion of the Twitter anti-c youth liberationist celebrity kid (who is not a part of the paraphilia communities). poikarn90 uses the term "victimological" to describe their view that children are "sexually available to adults" as a result of adultism. PCMA members deny the claim as merely a form of mapmisia, although celebrity kid arrived at that conclusion based on the evidently high rates of child sexual abuse by adults in society according to research and lived experiences. The Newgon Strategist suggested tactics to try to win them over, perceiving their youth liberationist views as providing an inherent "adjacency" to pro-contactism. In the part of the conversation shown in the second screenshot, the rhetoric became overtly toxic, as Strategist misgendered celebrity kid (a nonbinary person) as "he" (although their Twitter profile very clearly stated that their pronouns are "it/they," and others in the server managed to gender them correctly) and suggested guilt-tripping them with their own values to "tease" them for adopting "CSA victimology." That Strategist can be so casual about weaponizing anti-adultist social norms in youth liberationist spaces, which could minimize people's trust in and willingness to adhere to them, shows how he cares more about his/Newgon's own agendas than being considerate to youth issues. Elsewhere, his lack of consideration/willingness to sabotage youth liberation efforts has been even more clear. The more moderate, less hostile members of the above discussion have since diminished in influence in Newgon/PCMA. Without many (relatively) serious youth liberation advocates left, in the months following, (more) overt neo-Nazism took hold in Newgon/PCMA, as well as normalized acceptance of overt adultism/opposition to youth liberation.

			(On June 17, 2024, in yet another complaint about celebrity kid's Twitter youth liberation activism, Strategist/JohnHolt/Jim Burton misgendered them with "his" pronouns again, this time in a BoyChat post<ref name="AA">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628898.htm Re: A Dangerous Love (Censored on Amazon).] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 17 June 2024.</ref>.)

	Regarding LCAA, Jim Burton has said:		Regarding LCAA, Jim Burton has said:
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	Now, on BoyChat, JohnHolt insults "woke ASPD antisocial activists off Fedi"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620050.htm It's an undeniable fact.], via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>. He tries to denigrate and discredit various left-leaning map activists for being so-called "psychopaths"<ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /> and attacks them for identifying as mentally ill<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1622969.htm The argument was used against MAPs.], via BoyChat, 31 January 2024.</ref>. The Newgon Wiki attempts to denigrate and discredit Map Wiki editor Iris for describing themself as mentally ill<ref name="D">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Template:NNMisinfo Template:NNMisinfo], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It insults its critics for supposedly having "OCD character traits"<ref name="B" />.		Now, on BoyChat, JohnHolt insults "woke ASPD antisocial activists off Fedi"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620050.htm It's an undeniable fact.], via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>. He tries to denigrate and discredit various left-leaning map activists for being so-called "psychopaths"<ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref name="AA" /> and attacks them for identifying as mentally ill<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1622969.htm The argument was used against MAPs.], via BoyChat, 31 January 2024.</ref>. The Newgon Wiki attempts to denigrate and discredit Map Wiki editor Iris for describing themself as mentally ill<ref name="D">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Template:NNMisinfo Template:NNMisinfo], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It insults its critics for supposedly having "OCD character traits"<ref name="B" />.

	One of the "Informational memes" on the "Memes and Graphics" page, titled "Minors Beware" and tagged with "antis," "warning," "minors," "consent," "advice," "youth," and "guide"<ref name="A" />, says,		One of the "Informational memes" on the "Memes and Graphics" page, titled "Minors Beware" and tagged with "antis," "warning," "minors," "consent," "advice," "youth," and "guide"<ref name="A" />, says,

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			Other maps have also accused Newgon of reporting other map instances<ref>[https://nnia.space/@comrade_lecter/112480135795539981 Fediverse post by @comrade_lecter], via nnia.space, 21 May 2024.</ref>.

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	Newgon promotes anti-minor sentiments<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Minorcard.png "minor" card], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It pejoratively refers to Map Wiki editor Iris as "a mentally ill teenager" in an attempt to discredit them<ref name="I" />. It extends this line of criticism to young adults and younger activists in general as well<ref name="B" /><ref name="X">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Newgon%27s_History#/media/File:Nnia2.png Nnia2.png], via NewgonWiki.</ref><ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628615.htm Insanity of Pedophile 'Child/Youth Liberation'.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 9 June 2024.</ref>. (Newgon never highlights an adult's adulthood, or the fact of someone having an older age, when trying to portray an opponent in a negative light.)		Newgon promotes anti-minor sentiments<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Minorcard.png "minor" card], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It pejoratively refers to Map Wiki editor Iris as "a mentally ill teenager" in an attempt to discredit them<ref name="I" />. It extends this line of criticism to young adults and younger activists in general as well<ref name="B" /><ref name="X">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Newgon%27s_History#/media/File:Nnia2.png Nnia2.png], via NewgonWiki.</ref><ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628615.htm Insanity of Pedophile 'Child/Youth Liberation'.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 9 June 2024.</ref><ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628759.htm Why railing against the norm is futile.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 13 June 2024.</ref>. (Newgon never highlights an adult's adulthood, or the fact of someone having an older age, when trying to portray an opponent in a negative light.)

	JohnHolt insults "naive young idiots who [rail against the norm] on Fediverse" in a BoyChat post<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620068.htm Railing against the norm.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>:		JohnHolt insults "naive young idiots who [rail against the norm] on Fediverse" in a BoyChat post<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620068.htm Railing against the norm.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>:

Iris at 10:01, 11 June 2024

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	Newgon promotes anti-minor sentiments<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Minorcard.png "minor" card], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It pejoratively refers to Map Wiki editor Iris as "a mentally ill teenager" in an attempt to discredit them<ref name="I" />. It extends this line of criticism to young adults and younger activists in general as well<ref name="B" /><ref name="X">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Newgon%27s_History#/media/File:Nnia2.png Nnia2.png], via NewgonWiki.</ref><ref name="G" /><ref name="H" />. (Newgon never highlights an adult's adulthood, or the fact of someone having an older age, when trying to portray an opponent in a negative light.)		Newgon promotes anti-minor sentiments<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Minorcard.png "minor" card], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. It pejoratively refers to Map Wiki editor Iris as "a mentally ill teenager" in an attempt to discredit them<ref name="I" />. It extends this line of criticism to young adults and younger activists in general as well<ref name="B" /><ref name="X">[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Debate_Guide:_Newgon%27s_History#/media/File:Nnia2.png Nnia2.png], via NewgonWiki.</ref><ref name="G" /><ref name="H" /><ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1628615.htm Insanity of Pedophile 'Child/Youth Liberation'.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 9 June 2024.</ref>. (Newgon never highlights an adult's adulthood, or the fact of someone having an older age, when trying to portray an opponent in a negative light.)

	JohnHolt insults "naive young idiots who [rail against the norm] on Fediverse" in a BoyChat post<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620068.htm Railing against the norm.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>:		JohnHolt insults "naive young idiots who [rail against the norm] on Fediverse" in a BoyChat post<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1620068.htm Railing against the norm.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 2 December 2023.</ref>: