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	JohnHolt claims that [[Boylove\|boylovers]] "are not persecuted as a group" and "are rarely persecuted as individuals," and is dismissive of "online groups of people with shared trauma" from mapmisic abuse who believe this statement does not reflect reality. To elaborate on this, the article references<ref name="B" /> a BoyChat post titled "BL 'persecution' clown complex" where JohnHolt says that "Boy Lovers are not being 'persecuted', and never have been. If you believe this shit, calm down, and realize that you are part of a culture war and not a real war." He claims antis "want [boylovers] to survive and prosper" and that boylovers "will probably go through life with nothing worse than a lonely boner." He accuses boylovers who reject "working with people they hate," "don't understand" that positive change "will necessarily be gradual," and do not "support gradualist initiatives" of "refusing to reconcile radical philosophy with moderate demands" and "not behaving rationally"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1595443.htm BL 'persecution' clown complex.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 16 July 2022.</ref>. Newgon's "Ethos" page also describes its organizational approach as "radical philosophy, moderate demands"<ref name="C" />.		JohnHolt claims that [[Boylove\|boylovers]] "are not persecuted as a group" and "are rarely persecuted as individuals," and is dismissive of "online groups of people with shared trauma" from mapmisic abuse who believe this statement does not reflect reality. To elaborate on this, the article references<ref name="B" /> a BoyChat post titled "BL 'persecution' clown complex" where JohnHolt says that "Boy Lovers are not being 'persecuted', and never have been. If you believe this shit, calm down, and realize that you are part of a culture war and not a real war." He claims antis "want [boylovers] to survive and prosper" and that boylovers "will probably go through life with nothing worse than a lonely boner." He accuses boylovers who reject "working with people they hate," "don't understand" that positive change "will necessarily be gradual," and do not "support gradualist initiatives" of "refusing to reconcile radical philosophy with moderate demands" and "not behaving rationally"<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1595443.htm BL 'persecution' clown complex.] by JohnHolt, via BoyChat, 16 July 2022.</ref>. Newgon's "Ethos" page also describes its organizational approach as "radical philosophy, moderate demands"<ref name="C" />.

			He has also made vicious commentary against a relatively new acronym, "MYAP" (standing for "minor/youth-attracted person," a combination of the traditional "MAP" and the term "YAP" coined as an alternative), saying "We urgently need to set the 'myap' acronym on fire and dance around it in circles."<ref>[https://fedi.yesmap.net/@Jim_Burton/113120642764033945 Fediverse post by @Jim_Burton], via fedi.yesmap.net, 11 September 2024.</ref>

	==== Anti-radqueer views ====		==== Anti-radqueer views ====
	(Should this refer to radqueers specifically? Is there a way to generalize, or point at some particular traits, as transID, consaguinamory, etc?)		(Should this refer to radqueers specifically? Is there a way to generalize, or point at some particular traits, as transID, consaguinamory, etc?)

	Newgon is disdainful toward [[Radqueer\|radqueers]] and believes them to be insufficiently serious, as shown in a recent thread where the Newgon Strategist argued with several radqueer fediverse users<ref>[https://social.isekco.re/o/f4e5613ad19b49198093bcb35e85afb2 Fediverse thread by @arisudotexe], via social.isekco.re, 20 May 2024.</ref>.		Newgon is disdainful toward [[Radqueer\|radqueers]] and believes them to be insufficiently serious, as shown in a recent thread where the Newgon Strategist argued with several radqueer fediverse users<ref>[https://social.isekco.re/o/f4e5613ad19b49198093bcb35e85afb2 Fediverse thread by @arisudotexe], via social.isekco.re, 20 May 2024.</ref>.

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	He mentioned several individuals who were being victimized by Newgon-affiliated smear campaigns causing them to be defederated based on false charges from many fediverse instances. He tried to plan to trick them with an instance where they would have a federative "clean slate" and be able to interact with other instances again, but be deliberately banned "after a few months" for alleged infractions of rules against "malicious conduct." He seemed to not realize the total absurdity of the idea that Lecter, [Iris], or Kay Faraday would stoop to registering accounts on a Newgon instance merely for a few dangled federation privileges after months of experiencing Newgon hostility, bigotry, and harassment firsthand.		He mentioned several individuals who were being victimized by Newgon-affiliated smear campaigns causing them to be defederated based on false charges from many fediverse instances. He tried to plan to trick them with an instance where they would have a federative "clean slate" and be able to interact with other instances again, but be deliberately banned "after a few months" for alleged infractions of rules against "malicious conduct." He seemed to not realize the total absurdity of the idea that Lecter, [Iris], or Kay Faraday would stoop to registering accounts on a Newgon instance merely for a few dangled federation privileges after months of experiencing Newgon hostility, bigotry, and harassment firsthand.

			=== Doxxing ===

			Newgon members have indirectly and directly doxxed Lecter. In 2024, @StefiBeaLipton@fedi.yesmap.net posted a link to an old thread which doxxed Lecter's deadname, location, IRL photographs, and other personal information. The thread was from a notoriously anti-queer, anti-paraphile, far-right forum which repeatedly made transphobic and mapmisic comments about Lecter throughout, clearly targeting him for his marginalized characteristics and views with the intent of harassing and endangering him. Stefi had no qualms about weaponizing and exploiting such ill-gotten information.

			His search was encouraged by certain ongoing group harassment practices among the main social media-active Newgon members, who were encouraging each other to relentlessly dig around for whatever information they could on Lecter, no matter how old, out-of-date, niche, irrelevant, personal, or from unsavory sources. In other instances, the extreme lengths Newgon has gone to have culminated in bizarre harassment attempts such as screenshotting Lecter's random years-old posts, barely-political tweets from suspended accounts, and defunct profiles not mentioned anywhere else to display as evidence of supposed wrongdoing or problematic character on Newgon pages and in fediverse posts. (Newgon members have been carrying out similar harassment efforts against Iris, also scouring the Internet for their past presences in attempt to find random things to make fun of, although they did not manage to doxx them.)

			Jim Burton deleted Stefi's post, deeming it to have gone one step too far with regards to Newgon's current rules (or public image requirements). However, as shown by his reply to the post and his later activity, the discovery still bolstered his own plans, and he had no qualms whatsoever about using the information acquired, as long as it was without a direct link, to harm Lecter. (Stefi later voluntarily ceased his activity on fedi.yesmap.net when shown an opportunity to migrate to an even more Nazi-friendly server, but he has yet to be banned or to receive any actual official sanctions on his fedi.yesmap.net account for his dangerous doxxing behavior; it was clear that other members morally approved of the doxxing and were glad about it, and it was only seen by Jim as slightly problematic for optics.)

			Later, Newgon Wiki began to reference and use information from the doxx thread in various articles purporting to "expose" Lecter and/or NNIA. The most egregious expression of this excessive and extreme profiling has been in a recent article, which referenced the deadnaming/misgendering of Lecter, highlighted his alleged "illegal acts" for doing LGBT and pedophile activism in a country with hostile and bigoted laws, and referenced discussions among "PCMA server members" which suggest that fixating over Lecter's possible location and trying to narrow it down is apparently a regular pastime among PCMA/Newgon members<ref>[https://nnia.space/@comrade_lecter/113124347869267382 Fediverse thread by @comrade_lecter], via nnia.space, 12 September 2024.</ref>. Taking all of this into account, it is difficult not to conclude that Newgon's goal with regards to Lecter is to paint a(n even larger) target on his back, hoping he has a precarious situation they can exploit. (Alternatively, perhaps they simply do not notice that this is effectively what they are doing, or simply do not care that they are aiding and behaving like anti-MAPs.)

	== References ==		== References ==

Lecter: Created page with "For better understanding of Newgon as an organization, see Newgon. This page is a collection of evidence of their destructive and malicious activities. == Bigotry == === Intracommunity bigotry === ==== Paramisia ==== Newgon is dismissive of paraphilic identity labels it perceives as "new," "fringe," or based on "social justice theory"[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Nnia.png Nnia], via NewgonWiki.. File:Nnia.png.png|Newgon invalidating zoo..."

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Created page with "For better understanding of Newgon as an organization, see Newgon. This page is a collection of evidence of their destructive and malicious activities. == Bigotry == === Intracommunity bigotry === ==== Paramisia ==== Newgon is dismissive of paraphilic identity labels it perceives as "new," "fringe," or based on "social justice theory"<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Nnia.png Nnia], via NewgonWiki.</ref>. <gallery> File:Nnia.png.png|Newgon invalidating zoo..."

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Iris at 18:54, 12 September 2024