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A '''map ally''' is a pro map activist and supporter who is not a map themself.
'''Pedophilic disorder''' is a diagnosis in DSM-5-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) and ICD-11 (International Classification of Diseases). Its diagnostic criteria include sexual feelings for children and young adolescents and either a history of acting on these feelings or a sense of strong distress about them. At present, both DSM and ICD differentiate between having pedophilic disorder and being a pedophile.


Some people use "map ally" as a self identity when they want to say they are a non-map who likes some maps and agrees with them.
Legitimacy of this diagnosis is questionable.
== DSM ==


== History ==
<blockquote>
Exclusively peer/adult attracted people have always been present in map activism. Heather Elizabeth Peterson, the coiner of the term "minor attracted", is an example of such a person. It is unclear when these people started calling themselves map allies, but this identity gained traction somewhere between 2017 and 2018, very likely on Tumblr. Its creation and promotion is sometimes attributed to Aleska Kolja, but it is possible that other people came up with this label independently.


== Qualities of an ally ==
Diagnostic Criteria F65.4
<blockquote>Some people come to the community because their close ones are maps. Some come through CSA prevention. But whatever your initial vision was, you stay as an ally because you want to make the world better for maps. The core of allyship is working for maps and putting maps’ wellbeing first, not watching over maps to make sure they don’t offend, not using the map community to hunt for sexual predators. Maps are the ultimate goal of your actions, not a stepping stone to something else.</blockquote>
- Lecter<ref>[https://wierstamann.net/2023/03/20/the-place-of-allies-in-the-community/ The place of allies in the community], Wierstamann.</ref>


The basic requirements for a map ally are to put maps first in all map issues, to respect maps’ boundaries and mental and physical autonomy (which includes not urging maps to out themselves and go to therapy), to treat all maps as innocent till proven guilty, to be ready to accept and analyze criticism of one’s behavior around maps.
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sex­ual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).<br>


An ally is expected to share and promote measures that will make living as a map safer and more comfortable.
B. The individual has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.<br>
== Bad allyship ==
Some people express desire to join the map community as allies, but still perpetuate [[mapmisia]] without being aware of it.


<blockquote>But the reality is, sometimes allies act in ways that… really are less than helpful, if not just downright rude. Sometimes, outright ignoring our voices to speak for us things most of us would never say or misrepresenting what entire groups of us think.
C. The individual is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or chil­dren in Criterion A.<br>


The premise of this article is that if you acted these ways as a white ally to a black person… um… well… you would get labeled as racist in a heartbeat and dismissed just as quickly as those people in white robes burning crosses.</blockquote>
Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.<br>
- TNF<ref>[https://aboutpedophilia.com/2019/12/30/being-a-good-ally-to-minor-attracted-people/ Being A Good Ally To Minor Attracted People], Pedophiles About Pedophilia.</ref>


People who come to the map community with a goal to teach and guide are frequent participants of various scandals. Elliot lists the following mistakes bad allies commit:
Specify whether:<br>
*Misinformation;
Exclusive type (attracted only to children)<br>
*Incompatible views (bigotry, thoughtcrimes, etc);
Nonexclusive type<br>
*Silencing maps<ref>[https://www.mapresources.info/allies Allies], Map Resources.</ref>.</br>
After repeated conflicts, such people often leave the community. Contrary to the popular belief, maps have standards for whose allyship they accept.


=== Ally to anti-contact maps ===
Specify if:<br>
A specific subcategory of self proclaimed allies labels themselves as "allies to [[anti-contact]] maps". A major portion of map activism, such as helping maps access community support, promoting up-to-date information about minor attraction, protecting maps from harassment, is not related to [[contact discourse]]. Very few pro map initiatives benefit only one side in this discourse, because most concern the basic quality of life. Therefore, such allies either do not fulfill their ally role by ignoring many important goals, or turn basic human rights into special rewards for maps that pass their standard of a good person.
Sexually attracted to males<br>
Sexually attracted to females<br>
Sexually attracted to both<br>
 
Specify if:<br>
Limited to incest<br></blockquote>
 
- DSM-5-TR<ref>[https://www.docdroid.net/1TkXiNH/dsm-5-tr-pdf#page=1485 Pedophilic Disorder], DSM-5-TR.</ref><br>
 
The diagnosis "pedophilic disorder" has appeared in the DSM in 2013, replacing an older diagnosis "pedophilia", which did not require distress as a criterion and did not make a clear difference between just plain attraction and acting on it. This change was a part of a bigger shift towards depathologizing all paraphilias<ref>[https://jaapl.org/content/42/2/191 DSM-5 and Paraphilic Disorders], Michael B. First, Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online June 2014, 42 (2) 191-201.</ref>. The first edition of DSM-5 included the words "pedophilic sexual orientation"<ref>[https://www.docdroid.net/qSmIApN/dsm20v-pdf#page=730 Pedophilic Disorder], DSM-5.</ref>, and after accusations from the public, the word "orientation" has been changed to "interest", which was later copied to DSM-5-TR. Changing a correct term to a nearly synonymous, yet less thought-provoking one was referred to as a mistake by researchers<ref>[https://jaapl.org/content/42/4/404 Pedophilia and DSM-5: The Importance of Clearly Defining the Nature of a Pedophilic Disorder], Fred S. Berlin, Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online December 2014, 42 (4) 404-407.</ref>.
 
<blockquote>However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt,
shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic im­pulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and le­gally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder.</blockquote>
- DSM-5 at the moment of release
 
<blockquote>However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual interest but not pedophilic disorder.</blockquote>
- DSM-5-TR at present
 
== ICD ==
 
<blockquote>Description<br>
 
Pedophilic disorder is characterised by a sustained, focused, and intense pattern of sexual arousal—as manifested by persistent sexual thoughts, fantasies, urges, or behaviours—involving pre-pubertal children. In addition, in order for Pedophilic Disorder to be diagnosed, the individual must have acted on these thoughts, fantasies or urges or be markedly distressed by them. This diagnosis does not apply to sexual behaviours among pre- or post-pubertal children with peers who are close in age.<br>
 
Diagnostic Requirements<br>
 
Essential (Required) Features:<br>
 
*A sustained, focused, and intense pattern of sexual arousal—as manifested by persistent sexual thoughts, fantasies, urges, or behaviours—involving pre-pubertal children.<br>
 
*The individual must have acted on these thoughts, fantasies or urges or be markedly distressed by them.<br>
 
*The diagnosis does not apply to sexual arousal and accompanying behaviour between pre- or post-pubertal children who are close in age.<br></blockquote>
 
- ICD-11<ref>[https://icd.who.int/browse11/l-m/en#/http%3a%2f%2fid.who.int%2ficd%2fentity%2f517058174 Pedophilic Disorder], ICD-11.</ref><br>
 
ICD-11 was established in 2019 and has officially replaced ICD-10 on January 1, 2022. The older version of this document included the diagnosis "paedophilia", which applied only to the attraction<ref>[https://icd.who.int/browse10/2019/en#/F65.4 Paedophilia], ICD-10.</ref>. It's important to note that while DSM is used within the United States of America, ICD has worldwide significance. 
 
== Misconceptions ==
 
The main misconception is conflating pedophilic disorder and [[pedophilia]]. This is done by Wikipedia, which states that "Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) and the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11)."<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia Pedophilia], Wikipedia.</ref>. This leads to many people assuming that the attraction itself is a mental illness. Conceptualizing the attraction as pathological results in wide promotion of conversion therapy and an erroneous belief that any map who considers mapness an inherent identity is uneducated and mislead.<br>
 
People who understand the nature of this disorder poorly often claim that distress and guilt about being a map is a symptom of [[CSA obsessive-compulsive disorder|POCD]], and that "clients who have pedophilic disorder enjoy and are aroused by sexualized thoughts and images of children, clients with P-OCD fear that they may actually enjoy or find pleasure in these images"<ref>[https://www.ocdtypes.com/pocd-ocd.php Pedophilic OCD], OCD Types, New England OCD Institute.</ref>.<br>
 
In addition to that, [[Mapmisia|mapmisiacs]] often use ableist stereotypes against maps, such as assuming poor self control, low self awareness, violent behavior.
 
== Criticism ==
 
Both DSM and ICD treat the act of sexual abuse, perpetrated by a pedophile, as a sign of a mental disorder, while no conclusion like this is made about non-pedophilic sexual abusers.<br>
 
The distressed feelings maps experience about their attraction can be rather well explained by the minority stress model, which describes internalized stigma and guilt members of hated minorities may develop.
 
<blockquote>For example, LGBTQ+ youth and adults who have experienced prejudice about their sexual orientation sometimes choose to conceal their sexual identity from others. Concealing such personal information causes significant psychological distress, including intrusive thoughts about the secret, shame and guilt, anxiety, and isolation from other members of the minority group. Internalized homophobia is another proximal stressor prevalent among LGBT individuals. It refers to the internalization of negative social views about homosexuality, which leads to self-hatred and poor self-regard.</blockquote>
 
- Wikipedia<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_stress#Proximal_stressors_among_sexual_minorities Minority stress, Proximal stressors among sexual minorities], Wikipedia.</ref>
 
<blockquote>For me, it comes with intense feelings of guilt and disgust, self loathing, and even suicidal ideation and tendencies. It does come with urges, but not in the sense that you may think. Instead, I find myself constantly and consistently thinking about being a minor attracted person and how much it impacts my life and my outlook.</blockquote>
 
- Midsummer's Quest, "What does Pedophilic Disorder feel like? Well..."<ref>[https://bluesmidsummer.wixsite.com/midsummerquest/post/what-does-pedophilic-disorder-feel-like-well What does Pedophilic Disorder feel like? Well...], Midsummer's Quest.</ref><br>
 
The parallels between these two conditions were noticed not only by maps themselves, but also some researchers<ref>[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330635952_Correlates_of_Chronic_Suicidal_Ideation_Among_Community-Based_Minor-Attracted_Persons Cohen, Lisa & Wilman-Depena, Sherilyn & Barzilay, Shira & Hawes, Mariah & Yaseen, Zimri & Galynker, Igor. (2019). Correlates of Chronic Suicidal Ideation Among Community-Based Minor-Attracted Persons]. Sexual Abuse. 32. 107906321982586. 10.1177/1079063219825868.</ref>.  


It is possible to be an ally and hold anti-contact views. However, people who identify as allies to anti-contact maps only have a tendency to act in a police-like manner and make map spaces hostile for maps of all stances.
== Coming out as a map ==
Not being a map becomes a common rhetorical device for many allies. Yet, sometimes old allies end up coming out as maps themselves. Francis/Death and Lecter are an example of that. This phenomenon should not be used to discredit the legitimacy of other allies. Realizing you share an identity with people you stood up for is common in other marginalized communities (e.g. trans), due to how a safer and more calm environment makes questioning easier. Most allies do not end up identifying as maps.
== References ==
== References ==
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Pedophilic disorder is a diagnosis in DSM-5-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) and ICD-11 (International Classification of Diseases). Its diagnostic criteria include sexual feelings for children and young adolescents and either a history of acting on these feelings or a sense of strong distress about them. At present, both DSM and ICD differentiate between having pedophilic disorder and being a pedophile.

Legitimacy of this diagnosis is questionable.

DSM

Diagnostic Criteria F65.4

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sex­ual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The individual has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The individual is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or chil­dren in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

Specify whether:
Exclusive type (attracted only to children)
Nonexclusive type

Specify if:
Sexually attracted to males
Sexually attracted to females
Sexually attracted to both

Specify if:

Limited to incest

- DSM-5-TR[1]

The diagnosis "pedophilic disorder" has appeared in the DSM in 2013, replacing an older diagnosis "pedophilia", which did not require distress as a criterion and did not make a clear difference between just plain attraction and acting on it. This change was a part of a bigger shift towards depathologizing all paraphilias[2]. The first edition of DSM-5 included the words "pedophilic sexual orientation"[3], and after accusations from the public, the word "orientation" has been changed to "interest", which was later copied to DSM-5-TR. Changing a correct term to a nearly synonymous, yet less thought-provoking one was referred to as a mistake by researchers[4].

However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic im­pulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and le­gally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder.

- DSM-5 at the moment of release

However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual interest but not pedophilic disorder.

- DSM-5-TR at present

ICD

Description

Pedophilic disorder is characterised by a sustained, focused, and intense pattern of sexual arousal—as manifested by persistent sexual thoughts, fantasies, urges, or behaviours—involving pre-pubertal children. In addition, in order for Pedophilic Disorder to be diagnosed, the individual must have acted on these thoughts, fantasies or urges or be markedly distressed by them. This diagnosis does not apply to sexual behaviours among pre- or post-pubertal children with peers who are close in age.

Diagnostic Requirements

Essential (Required) Features:

  • A sustained, focused, and intense pattern of sexual arousal—as manifested by persistent sexual thoughts, fantasies, urges, or behaviours—involving pre-pubertal children.
  • The individual must have acted on these thoughts, fantasies or urges or be markedly distressed by them.
  • The diagnosis does not apply to sexual arousal and accompanying behaviour between pre- or post-pubertal children who are close in age.

- ICD-11[5]

ICD-11 was established in 2019 and has officially replaced ICD-10 on January 1, 2022. The older version of this document included the diagnosis "paedophilia", which applied only to the attraction[6]. It's important to note that while DSM is used within the United States of America, ICD has worldwide significance. 

Misconceptions

The main misconception is conflating pedophilic disorder and pedophilia. This is done by Wikipedia, which states that "Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) and the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11)."[7]. This leads to many people assuming that the attraction itself is a mental illness. Conceptualizing the attraction as pathological results in wide promotion of conversion therapy and an erroneous belief that any map who considers mapness an inherent identity is uneducated and mislead.

People who understand the nature of this disorder poorly often claim that distress and guilt about being a map is a symptom of POCD, and that "clients who have pedophilic disorder enjoy and are aroused by sexualized thoughts and images of children, clients with P-OCD fear that they may actually enjoy or find pleasure in these images"[8].

In addition to that, mapmisiacs often use ableist stereotypes against maps, such as assuming poor self control, low self awareness, violent behavior.

Criticism

Both DSM and ICD treat the act of sexual abuse, perpetrated by a pedophile, as a sign of a mental disorder, while no conclusion like this is made about non-pedophilic sexual abusers.

The distressed feelings maps experience about their attraction can be rather well explained by the minority stress model, which describes internalized stigma and guilt members of hated minorities may develop.

For example, LGBTQ+ youth and adults who have experienced prejudice about their sexual orientation sometimes choose to conceal their sexual identity from others. Concealing such personal information causes significant psychological distress, including intrusive thoughts about the secret, shame and guilt, anxiety, and isolation from other members of the minority group. Internalized homophobia is another proximal stressor prevalent among LGBT individuals. It refers to the internalization of negative social views about homosexuality, which leads to self-hatred and poor self-regard.

- Wikipedia[9]

For me, it comes with intense feelings of guilt and disgust, self loathing, and even suicidal ideation and tendencies. It does come with urges, but not in the sense that you may think. Instead, I find myself constantly and consistently thinking about being a minor attracted person and how much it impacts my life and my outlook.

- Midsummer's Quest, "What does Pedophilic Disorder feel like? Well..."[10]

The parallels between these two conditions were noticed not only by maps themselves, but also some researchers[11].

References

  1. Pedophilic Disorder, DSM-5-TR.
  2. DSM-5 and Paraphilic Disorders, Michael B. First, Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online June 2014, 42 (2) 191-201.
  3. Pedophilic Disorder, DSM-5.
  4. Pedophilia and DSM-5: The Importance of Clearly Defining the Nature of a Pedophilic Disorder, Fred S. Berlin, Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online December 2014, 42 (4) 404-407.
  5. Pedophilic Disorder, ICD-11.
  6. Paedophilia, ICD-10.
  7. Pedophilia, Wikipedia.
  8. Pedophilic OCD, OCD Types, New England OCD Institute.
  9. Minority stress, Proximal stressors among sexual minorities, Wikipedia.
  10. What does Pedophilic Disorder feel like? Well..., Midsummer's Quest.
  11. Cohen, Lisa & Wilman-Depena, Sherilyn & Barzilay, Shira & Hawes, Mariah & Yaseen, Zimri & Galynker, Igor. (2019). Correlates of Chronic Suicidal Ideation Among Community-Based Minor-Attracted Persons. Sexual Abuse. 32. 107906321982586. 10.1177/1079063219825868.