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Created page with "thumb|right|The girllove symbol The girllove logo is a symbol of girllove. == Origins == There is way less definite information about the origins of the girllove logo than about the boylove logo.</br> It is highly likely that this symbol was developed in December of 2000 on a special forum called Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum<ref>[https://www.girlloverforum.net/archiv/glldforum/international/index.htm Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum], archive..."
 
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Created page with "Pro-consent or pro consent is an identity in contact discourse that has no independent meaning on its own. It spread due to a misunderstanding and gained popularity among both anti-contact and pro-contact ideologues who tried to make it synonymous with their political positions. == History == It is unclear when term "pro-consent" was first used. In the beginning of 2020 an anti-map Twitter user that has misread "pro c" in a map's bio has popularized it for the first ti..."
 
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[[File:GL symbol.svg|thumb|right|The girllove symbol]]
Pro-consent or pro consent is an identity in contact discourse that has no independent meaning on its own. It spread due to a misunderstanding and gained popularity among both anti-contact and pro-contact ideologues who tried to make it synonymous with their political positions.
The girllove logo is a symbol of [[girllove]].
== Origins ==
There is way less definite information about the origins of the girllove logo than about the [[boylove logo]].</br>


It is highly likely that this symbol was developed in December of 2000 on a special forum called Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum<ref>[https://www.girlloverforum.net/archiv/glldforum/international/index.htm Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum], archived in part by girlloverforum.net.</ref>. Its creation is periodically credited to an activist going by AP<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/AP AP], NewgonWiki.</ref>, who significantly invested in its promotion. According to his explanation of the symbol, the inner small heart represents a girl, but the outer heart, unlike the [[boylove]] logo, symbolizes a gender neutral adult. AP’s own site, Puellula, was also dedicated largely to girllove and girls and has been since suspended and excuded from the Wayback Machine.</br>
== History ==
<gallery>
File:Old glogo version1.jpg|An early GL logo variant from Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum
File:Old glogo version2.jpg|Another version from Girl-Lover-Logo-Design-Forum
File:GLogo Meaning.jpg|The GL logo meaning by AP
</gallery>
It's possible to assume that at some point in the 00s the first design of the listed above was widespread in girllover communities. In 2007 it was recognized by a hostile-sounding commenter in someone's scarification result<ref>[https://news.bme.com/2005/09/12/assorted-trivia/ Assorted Trivia], BME News, see the comment by zeph at the bottom.</ref>. The commenter provided the following link: http://graphics.puellula.com/Spike.html. It is unclear whether this variant of the GL logo was referred to as the "Spike" logo, but it is not unlikely.


On some early sites, for instance, GirlWiki<ref>[https://archive.ph/fSlUp GirlWiki] via Archive Today. GirlWiki (childlover.org), despite not containing any illegal content, was removed from Wayback Machine, and now exists only as a zip archive in several places, including here https://faraday.quest/static/box/activism-archive/.</ref>, the outer heart is depicted as blue, presenting the adult as a man.</br>
It is unclear when term "pro-consent" was first used. In the beginning of 2020 an anti-map Twitter user that has misread "pro c" in a map's bio has popularized it for the first time. It is possible to assume that this blogger deabbreviated "pro c" in such a way because that map was talking about children consenting. Other sources point at NAMBLA as the origin.
<gallery>
File:Girlwiki glogo.png|The GL logo from GirlWiki
</gallery>


== Modern times ==
Pro-contact map bloggers of Twitter liked this term and decided to use it. Anti-contact maps joined in a few days later, and since then "pro-consent" has had several short spikes of popularity among all camps of [[contact discourse]].
The little girl lover symbol was designed  by Pappy in mid March 2020 on basis of the [[Boylove logo|little boy lover symbol]].
== Meanings ==
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=== Pro-contact ===
File:LGL symbol.png|The little girl love symbol
Pro-contact ideologues define "pro-consent" as a position in defense of children being able to give consent to adults; pro enthusiastic relationships with children, anti forced sex with children.
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Nowadays some members of the map community draw parallels with [[Boylove_logo#The_Main_Logo|the boylove logo's history]] and regard the girllove logo as symbol, rooted in lesbian love (lesbian map attraction is called [[Uncommon_MAP_identities#Korephile|korephilia]]). However, almost everyone agrees that a map of any gender may use it.
=== Anti-contact ===
== References ==
Anti-contact ideologues define "pro-consent" as respect for the fact that sometimes consent cannot and will not take place; against all relationships where consent is absent or dubious, including relationships between adults and children.
 
== Criticism ==
The term has been criticized as unnecessarily inflammatory, because it forces the "anti-consent" label onto the opponent.
In addition to that, its popularity among people across the entire contact discourse spectrum, as well as individual differences in the definition of "consent", decrease its usefulness as a political group label.

Revision as of 21:10, 29 April 2024

Pro-consent or pro consent is an identity in contact discourse that has no independent meaning on its own. It spread due to a misunderstanding and gained popularity among both anti-contact and pro-contact ideologues who tried to make it synonymous with their political positions.

History

It is unclear when term "pro-consent" was first used. In the beginning of 2020 an anti-map Twitter user that has misread "pro c" in a map's bio has popularized it for the first time. It is possible to assume that this blogger deabbreviated "pro c" in such a way because that map was talking about children consenting. Other sources point at NAMBLA as the origin.

Pro-contact map bloggers of Twitter liked this term and decided to use it. Anti-contact maps joined in a few days later, and since then "pro-consent" has had several short spikes of popularity among all camps of contact discourse.

Meanings

Pro-contact

Pro-contact ideologues define "pro-consent" as a position in defense of children being able to give consent to adults; pro enthusiastic relationships with children, anti forced sex with children.

Anti-contact

Anti-contact ideologues define "pro-consent" as respect for the fact that sometimes consent cannot and will not take place; against all relationships where consent is absent or dubious, including relationships between adults and children.

Criticism

The term has been criticized as unnecessarily inflammatory, because it forces the "anti-consent" label onto the opponent. In addition to that, its popularity among people across the entire contact discourse spectrum, as well as individual differences in the definition of "consent", decrease its usefulness as a political group label.